Posted on April 14 April 2011

Three deaf gay North Texans refuse to let what some would see as a
disability stand in the way of a fulfilling life

Staff Writer
lopez@ dallasvoice.com

Noise. There are layers of it every day. The bustle of traffic, dogs
barking, someone stomping down the hall, the whirring of a desk fan and the
blare of digital music from computer speakers.

These can all register with most people all at once — even if they don’t
know it. For some others, they may be fading aural glimpses — or nothing at

When deaf culture and gay culture collide, it’s not an unusual thing.
Although one has nothing to do with the other, there is an interestingly
significant proportion of gay people who are deaf. The Rainbow Alliance of
the Deaf states that the percentage of the LGBT population is “approximately
10 percent of the deaf population.”

But is there an added pressure to being deaf or hard of hearing and gay?

Three gentlemen would say no.

“The deaf community is a very welcoming one and doesn’t discriminate,”
Jeffrey Payne says. “It’s a non-issue.”

Payne may be most recognizable as the winner of International Mr. Leather in
2009 and more recently as a new co-owner of the Dallas Eagle club — but more
on him later.

Born this way

Speaking of non-issues, Andy Will was born completely deaf 36 years ago. He
seems perplexed at times talking about it, because for him it’s a fact of
life. And knowing he was gay at a very young age didn’t hurt Will in
discovering who he is.

“I knew I was gay when I was 8,” he said.

For the record, the majority of his quotes here are via Facebook chat and
text messages.

Will didn’t come out until later, and before doing so he got married and had
a daughter, Sarah. The gay thing didn’t go over too well with his wife, and
the two were only married for eight months. Will didn’t see Sarah for quite
some time.

But something in Will is so optimistic about life and what it offers that it
would seem patience paid off for him. Or maybe it’s optimism mistaken for
proud parent considering the exclamation he has when talking about his girl.

“I wanted to be honest to my family and my ex-wife that I’m gay,” he said.
“I didn’t see my daughter for 11 years but she came to see me on her 12th
birthday and we’re happily back together. Father and daughter! And she knows
and has kindly accepted me as being her gay dad!”

In the meantime, Will met Joseph and they were together for five years. But
Joseph passed away after losing a battle to cancer. Will met Dwane online
and then officially at JR.’s Bar & Grill. They are celebrating 10 years

Dwane is not deaf.

“I’m not sure how I did that. Life is pretty happy here,” Will said.

Some of Will’s hobbies may seem unexpected to the hearing population. Once a
week he drives more than 50 miles from his home in Krugerville, north of
Denton, to the Oak Lawn Boxing Gym off of Riverfront Boulevard. He’s been
taking lessons from gym owner Travis Glenn for “about four or five
months,” and according to the coach, it’s been a learning experience for
both men.

“Many people have suggested that I just need to learn a few basic American
Sign Language signs, but that doesn’t work when you have on boxing
gloves,” Glenn said. “It took a few lessons, but Andy and I have found a
working rhythm for his training. When he does something that needs
adjustment, I point to him, mimic what he did, and shake my head ‘no.’ Then
I point to myself, do the movement correctly, and shake my head ‘yes.’

“I’m sure it looks odd to bystanders, but it seems to work for us,” Glenn

Will mentions that sometimes they have to work with a pen and pad or that he
can read Glenn’s lips as he speaks, but he’s at the point now where he can
almost tell what Glenn is thinking.

“I can read his movements and body language but sometimes I can read what he
means in my mind and get the movement right,” he said.

Out of simple ignorance, people may incorrectly assume that deaf people
can’t do as much as hearing people. But Will has never bought into that.

“I’ve been playing sports since I was a kid,” he said. “I used to play
basketball and football in school and I currently play on softball and rugby
teams. And now boxing.”

Again, for Will, this is nothing, but he knows what people may think. He
isn’t trying to shatter any images. He’s just living his life. But if he
changes someone’s perception along the way, he’s fine with that, too.

Above all the labels that people could place on Will, he’s shooting for one.

“I’m the proud gay dad of Sarah,” he said, “And sometimes I can surprise
people that a deaf person can do the things that I like doing.”

Normal fears

Ronnie Fanshier used to be a male dancer. He once was Mr. Texas Leather. Now
he lives a comfortable life in the suburbs and is one step away from being
completely deaf.

“I am classified as profoundly deaf,” he said.

He also just turned 50 and isn’t worrying so much about his deafness as much
as just accepting the landmark birthday — like anyone does.

“Fifty is a milestone if you’re gay, straight or whatever. I have mixed
feelings about it, but I appreciate what I’ve learned about life up to this
point,” he said. “I certainly would not want to go back and live all over
again. There would be so many friendships and loves I’d miss out on and
that’s not a chance I would take.”

For someone who is so close to having 100 percent hearing loss, Fanshier
doesn’t sound like he’s letting that be an albatross. Born with nerve
deafness — meaning that the nerves transmitting sound to the brain don’t
function properly — Fanshier always knew what the ultimate result would be
with his hearing. Acceptance wasn’t so much an issue, but socially, it did
have an impact — good and bad.

“Looking back to school, I adapted quite well to most social situations I
was exposed to. I knew I was gay at an early age, but I played the
boyfriend/girlfriend game until I graduated. Back then, if you were even
suspected of being gay, you were pretty much ostracized,” he said.

As a youth, Fanshier seemed to use his deafness as a way to glide by
students prone to bullying anyone who was gay, although he remembers it with
some delight.

“Being hard of hearing/deaf helped immensely in that respect, since I was
already a little different in an accepted way,” he recalled. “What’s funny
is I remember some classmates saying I was a ‘fag’ and other classmates
would say, ‘No he’s deaf, and that’s why he talks different.’ Isn’t that a

As adulthood came, Fanshier says he kicked the closet door down and hit the
gay bars. Everything he had learned socially in school to communicate and
even get by worked wonders for him in the community. And he developed his
own tricks to party it up on the dance floor.

“I loved dancing,” he said. “I would turn my hearing aids off and dance to
the beat. If the bass got soft, I would watch others on the dance floor and
use their rhythmic movements to create a sort of metronome to dance to until
the bass got strong again.”

He loved it so much that he took it to the pedestals. As a college student,
he danced his way through gay bars in Dallas, Houston, Oklahoma City and
Tulsa. His confidence brimmed.

“I was young, athletic-looking and very personable,” he said. “I would
intentionally wear one hearing aid up there on the box and it was a good ice
breaker for tippers. This was another way of making myself more memorable. I
was very social and outgoing and my handicap never stopped me.”

What Fanshier does instead is own his deafness. He didn’t apply fear to it
and instead worried about what he says every gay man probably worries about:
Health, finding Mr. Right (he did), family acceptance — oh, and one more

“Will I be able to get the clothes, car and home that any self-respecting
queen should have,” he joked.

What’s curious about Fanshier is that he never learned sign language. He was
actually discouraged by his parents and teachers who feared that society
would single him out. And he’s glad for that.

“I thank them profusely for that,” he said. “I would not be the person I am
today if that decision had not been made for me. I should learn ASL, but I
tend to have a short-term memory and I probably wouldn’t retain it, and I
have few hard-of-hearing friends to use it with. I also work in a mainstream
environment, and sign language would have severely limited my job

But Franshier’s made it work the way he knows how. He’s built a good life
with a long tenure at the hospital he works for, a house by the lake and his
partner of 14 years — all while taking what may easily be considered a
detriment, and turning it to his advantage.

The emergence of a voice

Jeffrey Payne has not been silent about his experience. He told the Voice
before about discovering his hearing loss at 40 years old and was initially
told he would be completely deaf by Christmas 2010.

The timeline has been wrong so far, but Payne has taken his visibility in
the Dallas LGBT community and is turning it into increasing the awareness of
Dallas gay deaf denizens.

“I’ve come to know many individuals in Dallas who are hard of hearing and
also gay,” he said. “What’s really wonderful about it is that it’s all part
of same gay community.”

Payne himself could be looked upon as the spark that began an increased
interest in Dallas. With such a high profile in the leather community that
reached out beyond, people could identify with him in a way perhaps they
couldn’t before.

“I believe some people saw the need for it when I went from hearing to hard
of hearing,” he said.

He’s worked with several local gay organizations in increasing options for
hard of hearing, but was ecstatic with the Texas Bear Round Up’s efforts
this past March.

Organizers looked to Payne for directon on providing an enjoyable experience
for hard-of-hearing and deaf bears attending.

“With TBRU, this huge event and largest bear event I believe, they were so
proactive reaching out to me and the St. Cyr Fund to ensure interpreters at
all functions,” he said. “I was thrilled, to be honest with you.”

The Sharon St. Cyr Fund was created by Payne — and named after his mother
— to assist with purchasing hearing aids for those who can’t afford them and
to increase the presence of ASL interpreters at events. Payne has taken his
plight and turned it into opportunity — and doesn’t mind if he’s a little

“Just with my story I’ve been given, I’ll talk to anyone on a microphone,
even if it is out of my comfort zone,” he said. “ASL is really just a
different language, but some people get frustrated if they can’t sign.
[Hearing] people also want to learn so it’s nice knowing the awareness level
is there now. Sign language is a very beautiful language.”

As for his personal struggle, Payne doesn’t dwell on it. He sounds
repurposed for this new mission in life. He credits his husband, David, and
his family for their support and understanding. He’s intent on not just
dealing with deafness, but making the most of it.

Payne said before winning IML, he was a background kind of guy. That ended
when his name was announced as the winner, but he was encouraged by his
partner not to waste the opportunity he had.

“I’ve always been a firm believer that things happen for a reason,” Payne
said. “I was thrust out of the background with IML and now I can make a

This article appeared in the Dallas Voice print edition April 15, 2011.

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